The Nazi concentration camps were prisons for innocent people who had been arrested for no reason and imprisoned without trial, because they were Jews, or Gypsies, or trade unionists or Jehovah's Witnesses...
The prisoners were starved, forced to live in filthy conditions, and deprived of medical treatment. They included young children and the elderly. Sometimes they were subjected to cruel medical experiments over a million were killed in the gas chambers in the extermination camps.
When Midnight Run/dave says about the gas chambers:
"Such proof would, of course, contradict the scientific/forensic proof that does exist which supports the fact that no gas chambers existed"
he is referring to the totally discredited Leuchter Report and ignoring the work by Professor Lipstadt, the findings of the Poles, and the amount of eye-witness evidence not only to the gas chambers but to the mass murders of Jews in, for example, Babi Yar
When he says:
"In 1942 he [Hitler] once again tried to move the Jews out of Germany and thus the Wannsee Protocol (the "Final Solution to the Jewish Question") was created."
I am afraid he is simply lying. The Protocol, the minutes of a conference
held by the Wannsee Lake in 1942 was a plan to deal with all the Jews the Nazis estimated were left in Europe - they list the numbers in every region - that is every region. It was not just 'to move the Jews out of Germany', but to take all the able bodied Jews to the East and kill them with over work and ill treatment - as they were already doing in the ghettos and the camps.
He claims: Using just "The Final Solution", they manipulate people into believing that there was a secret plan to exterminate Jews (even though the Wannsee Protocol doesn't support such a notion)."
Well, the Protocols certainly do support this view - even to being stamped 'Top Secret' - there's your secret plan Dave. And here is the plan:
"Approximately 11 million Jews will be involved in the final solution of the European Jewish question, distributed as follows among the individual countries:"
A list of countries follows. And the Protocols go on to say:
"The handling of the problem in the individual countries will meet with difficulties due to the attitude and outlook of the people there, especially in Hungary and Rumania. Thus, for example, even today the Jew can buy documents in Rumania that will officially prove his foreign citizenship."
Do you still claim that this just means "moving the Jews out of Germany"?
And look at how Dave talks about the Jewish prisoners:
"Just turning them loose on the other side of the border wouldn't have prevented them from returning."
Does he sound as if he is talking about human beings - many of them children? - or a herd of troublesome animals? which is exactly how he seems to regard them.
He finishes with this piece of nonsense:
"The fact that so many Jews and others died in the camps falls back on Britain - they had the power to save them but chose not to (an odd response from the country that supported Jewish immigration to Palestine when they issued the Balfour Declaration to the Zionists in 1917..."
The fact that so many people died in the camps is down to the people who built the camps and put them there - the Nazis, dave, not the Brits.
And the Balfour Declaration does not support Jewish immigration to Palestine, any more than the Wannsee Protocols simply refer to 'moving the Jews out of Germany.' You have the words in plain English there, but you refuse to believe them.
Oh, and dave, you say:
"The term "Jewish Question", by-the-way, is of Zionist origin. It refers to the problems that the Jews faces when Germany excluded them from professional and other influential positions in Germany, and what they were going to do. Moving them to Palestine was the "Solution to the Jewish Question".
This isn't true, dave. If that were true, then the obvious solution would have been to demand that Hitler gave the Jews their jobs back ( you know 'influential positions' like the doctors forbidden to work for charities in Berlin) In fact:
"In Nazi Germany, the term Jewish Question (in German: Judenfrage) referred to the belief that the existence of Jews in Germany posed a problem for the state. In 1933 two Nazi theorists, Johann von Leers and Achim Gercke, both proposed the idea that the Jewish Question could be solved by resettling Jews in Madagascar or resettling them somewhere else in Africa or South America. They also discussed the pros and cons of supporting the German Zionists. Von Leers asserted that establishing a Jewish homeland in British Palestine would create humanitarian and political problems for the region,"
As indeed it would. Of course the presence of the Jews presented no problem to the state. It was a Nazi fantasy.