Do you believe israel or Palastine..who is true and false?
- Anonymous8 months agoFavourite answer
i believe them both there is no simple answer
- RobertLv 68 months ago
Hello "Time Machine",
I have considered the "Palestinian" Arab viewpoint, but find that the things they say cannot be verified.
While a lot of paperwork has been concocted (in this case by the Arab-dominated United Nations) to make the “Palestinian Arab claim” appear genuine, here is the reality:
The Jewish People are the indigenous people of their ancestral homeland of Israel (Roman-imposed rename “Palestine”). There never has been any “Palestine” sovereign state by which the “Palestinian” Arabs could base any claim to the land of Israel.
Map of post-Biblical Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judah (aka Judea) including the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan Heights, with its capital of (what is now EAST) Jerusalem / “Old City”; between 110 BCE / 754 BH and 63 BCE / 706 BH:
The “Palestinian” Arabs falsely-allege Israeli Jews all came from Europe; some Jews being returnee-exiles. Yet the Jewish People are indigenous to their ancestral homeland of Israel, with unbroken presence from Biblical times:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_...
Whereas the Jewish People have Judean heritage (“Jew”=citizen of “Judea”), by comparison the “Palestinians” obtained an artificial, unique, bogus inheritable-refugee status from the Arab-dominated United Nations (see further below). This being a means to inflate the number of alleged-refugees as a (fraudulent) means of “invading” Israel. It is a refugee status allowed in no other refugee situation - see the best-answer at:
UNRWA.Org webpage seeking to defend the Palestinian bogus inheritable-refugee status, while falsely-comparing the separate: “Derivative” status:
As the reader will appreciate since this dishonestly distorts for political-bias both the number of Palestinian alleged “refugees” and their claims of numbers “displaced”, such a dishonest-status based in political-bias, cannot be imposed on Israel.
The Palestinian false-“right of return” is the use of the Palestinian unique, bogus, inheritable-refugee status, to inflate their 500,000 unverified 1948 war refugees, into today’s alleged 5 million fake-refugees; a figure which in reality is simply a (fraudulent) means of “invading” Israel.
How do the Palestinian fake-refugee-camps obtain their status of “refugee camps”? By the presence within them of those fake “Palestinian refugees” having their bogus unique inherited-refugee status:
Therefore the Palestinians find it convenient to mislead the world about their true status, by calling many of their towns: “refugee camps” in order to fraudulently tap your international aid money.
The Palestinians obtained their false refugee status from the Arab-dominated United Nations:
What happened to anti-Semitism following the end of the Nazi genocide of Jews?:
It became institutionalized within the “United Nations” and “European Union”. Both the United Nations and the European Union falsely-treat the Jewish People as “invaders”, thus as “thieves” and “illegal-occupiers” of the Jews OWN land (all land of prior Jewish kingdoms of Judea / Israel), so illogically of building “illegal-settlements”, with Palestinian terrorism regarded as “resistance to occupation”.
United Nations polices are fully-complicit with Palestinian propaganda denying Jewish roots in the land of Israel. The U.N. built-in pro-Palestinian bias is due to its block-vote of up to 56 Arab and additional Islamic-aligned countries (e.g. U.N. member states that are also members of the “Organization of Islamic Cooperation”), plus the influence of Arab oil money; compared to Israel being just one country.
In United Nations General Assembly votes on the Arab / Israel dispute, a requirement for a Two-Thirds Majority is often invoked, to prevent a U.N. vote passing in favor of Israel:
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“Although a majority of UN Member States voted in favor of [...] condemning [..] Hamas[...] it failed [...] A procedural vote [... had required] a two-thirds majority”.
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Palestinian propaganda seeks without any evidence, to falsely-assert the “Palestinian” Arabs come from peoples pre-dating the Jewish People, yet appearing somewhat “confused” about their ancestry, as they fail to come-up with any one convincing story. Pro-Palestinians often falsely-claim without evidence that the Palestinians are the so-called “real-Jews”, while inconsistent with the latter false-claim the Palestinians claim to their own people, likewise without evidence, that they come from the Canaanites (see source next).
The Palestinians falsely-claim they are descended from the Canaanites! The Canaanites do not exist today and the “Palestinian” Arabs have no connection with them (either) - See:
“Op-ed in PA daily fabricates history, claiming Palestinians are descendants of the biblical Canaanites Source: Official PA daily, Al-Hayat Al-Jadida, July 27, 2017”:
Who were the Arabs living in British “Palestine” Mandate administered Israel then? Likely nomadic Arabs, or foreign workers who came to the land of Israel during the British Mandate to take advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles - See “Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather.
(Please see the source which I have put into the “Sources” area of this answer.)
The “Palestinian” Arabs considering themselves Arab were even opposed to being called a “people” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews.
(Please see the source which I have put into the “Sources” area of this answer.)
The reader may also consider how there could be propaganda that the “Palestinian” Arabs have allegedly any sincere emotional-attachment to the Jewish ancestral homeland of Israel, when:
The Palestinians attempted to take over Jordan by force in 1970 to 1971:
The Palestinians attempted to take over Lebanon by force
and were likely the cause of its civil war, in 1975 - See pages 36 to 37 (PDF pages 40 to 41) of “Development of Palestinian Militancy_Role in Lebanese Civil War by Christine E_Ganley” (copy saved to):
By the way do take a look at the “Palestinian” flag and compare with the Jordanian flag. The two are identical save for a white star the “Palestinian” Arabs bothered to remove.
The reader will also have noticed that the “Palestinian” Arabs and their typically anti-Semitic supporters label as:
“Propaganda”, “Hasbara”, “Dehumanization”, “Subterfuge”, “Rant”, “Lies”,
any verifiable-argument that the Palestinians seem Unable to answer and therefore also, Refuse to answer.
The Palestinians do not (and cannot) “do”, objective-evidence.
Image: Coin (see also my Yahoo Answers account image) from the Jewish Hasmonean Kingdom of Judea; reign of King Mattathias Antigonus, c. 40 BCE / 682 BH. Shows Menorah used at the Jewish Temple in its capital Jerusalem, and has ancient Hebrew letters. Assists the reader understand the Jewish roots in their ancestral homeland of Israel.
See (at last looking) the seventh image down, at:
I hope this helps.
Robert.Source(s): Additional source: The Arabs in British “Palestine” Mandate were likely nomadic, or foreign workers taking advantage of higher wages through Jewish returnee-exiles - See “Arab Immigration to Historic Palestine: A Survey”, by Richard Mather: http://www.mideastoutpost.com/archives/arab-immigr... The “Palestinian” Arabs were opposed to being called a “people” until the 1960’s, when they decided it fitted with their intention to steal the land of Israel from its indigenous Jews: https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11401/palestini...
- Anonymous8 months ago
Both false. those lands are not theirs. it belonged to Ottoman Empire.they are both squatters in someone else's lands.
- FireballLv 78 months ago
ISRAEL IS BLESSED BY GOD...IT IS THE HOLY LAND...WHAT THE HCk is wrong with this board?d
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- dfLv 48 months ago
Thanks so so many good people and to be there at all the time of the year
- 8 months ago
Israel........... Jesus was born there :)
- Mama KimamaLv 78 months ago
(I thought Israel WAS Palestine?) At any rate, I would chose Israel, because that's where Jesus came from.